Thursday, January 17, 2013

Initial Response From Some UC Faculty To UC Regents Meeting

first, this: KQED Forum Host: Michael Krasny
Guests: Jonathan Stein, University of California student regent
Michael Meranze, professor of history at UCLA and co-editor of the education blog Remaking the University, with UCSB professor Christopher Newfield
Mo Qayoumi, president of San Jose State University
Sebastian Thrun, Google VP and fellow, part-time research professor at Stanford University and founder of Udacity, a company focused on bringing university-level education to the public (you can view comments and background to this Forum discussion here at this PBS site, or just click play below to listen-- you might have to click pause on video of L'il Hoover commission video on previous post so that the audio does not overlap.)



And,
Changing Universities UC Regents Meeting Report-Rewriting History and Forgetting The Faculty

Remaking the University - Whose Online? What Online?

UCLA Faculty Blog - CA Pol Issues is back

You can watch today's session of UC Regents Meeting On Demand here as a direct link.
You can watch earlier sessions of this week's UC Regents meeting On Demand here.
You can find the agenda items for the UC Regents here.

Also,
LA Times editorial Micromanaging the UCs
Gov. Brown wants major changes at the UC and Cal State University systems. Some of his ideas are good, but many could change the very nature of those institutions.

Important PS You should go to the PBS site and read the comments that accompany The Forum conversation, it includes exchanges like:

Sebastian Thrun •

Udacity provides a lot of assistance to professors in creating online classes. We have a staff of about 20 instructional designers and educational specialist who assist instructors. The online medium is really different from the in-class medium. Too many online courses are composed of recorded lectures. If we unleash the full potential of online, we have environments like Carnegie Mellon's OLI which provides students with personalized learning paths. Check out our Physics 101 course to get a taste of this (and yes, this is work in progress).

Kevin Heller Sebastian Thrun •


Sebastian Thrun: I love the idea of Udacity providing assistance to help a professor get their course online and take advantage of all the technological resources that are available, but how can this be done for $150/student? Capped at 100 students, that's $15,000/class. So the professor, TAs, and Udacity staff can make a profit even at this low cost? I would love to see numbers on that!

Christopher Newfield Sebastian Thrun •

Prof. Thrun, if you use OLI or other blended systems with personalized feedback and faculty contact you won't save higher ed money. If you save them money, you will downgrade quality. You've made huge promises, and your promises have convinced senior leadership in higher ed and state government that they don't need to reverse catastrophic cuts that have for example eliminated seminars and replaced them with the large lectures none of us want. I think you now have a responsibility to produce real data about costs and educational results that show how you for the first time in history have overcome the "cost disease" problem of all services (education, health) that require personal attention. (Health care is a great example of how quality-through-technology has NOT lowered costs -- we spend 2x of any other country for mediocre results). We have been unable to find any concrete data to back up your claims.
I am enrolled in your Udacity stats class and can confirm that you are yourself an excellent instructor

and Michael Meranze has some post Forum on Online interview analysis

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